life vs death: too 'bee' or not to 'bee' - mostly in the mind

topic posted Mon, June 12, 2006 - 8:15 AM by  Rafael0 Suri...
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i spent the weekend in the mojave desert at a gathering celebrating life under the fullmoon. on sunday morning, a girl in her early 20's was stung by a bee. her throat started to close up on her and she began to panic - she had a history of being allergic to bee stings, and had even taken an epinephrin shot a last time. we had no epinephrin for her in the middle of the mojave desert. when i came to her she was in laid out on the floor our first aide tent with our nurse. she could barely breathe and her pulse was 146 and climbing, we couldn't find her friends either. it was starting to look very bad as we couldn't get her to relax, it began to look like we might loose her. someone volunteered to drive her to a nearby(2hrs drive?) hospital and brought his car around but she refused because she had taken mdma and didn't want to go to a hospital on drugs... as soon as she told me she was on mdma i knew she had a chance.
"you took exstacy? that's wonderful! why don't you ask your throat why it's so tight? what is it holding on too?" i asked her.

she instantly relaxed, she started breathing and her pulse dropped to 72 in less than 30 seconds.(our nurse has this neat little stats device that goes on your finger). a few moments later a wave of fear and panic took her again but this time much less and she already knew that she had won. this time i suggested that she forgive herself.... 5 minutes later she was sitting up and even enjoying her roll again.
a doctor showed up. talked to her gave her some hits from an asma spray and some over the counter allergy meds but she was fine at this point. 30 minutes later she was on the dance floor.

i wonder how many people die because they believe they will, rather than because they are actually in any danger. this young lady really could have died, she was tired, exposed, dehydrated,low blood sugar, tachycardia, on mdma (and who knows if that's all she took) and convinced that she would die from a bee sting if she didn't get a shot.

yet by choosing to communicate with herself she instantly chose to live.

the human vessel never ceases to amaze me.

rafael0

x-posted on a couple of other tribes ;)
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Rafael0 Suriya^^ Aisner
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  • Rafael! What a wondrous thing you have relayed. What you did was verbal suggestion first aid! You saved this woman's life (though she may not realize it by giving her the positive suggestion that it was fortunate she was on mdma and that she would therefore be more able to release what was constricting her throat. I don't know if you are aware of the sophistication of your words and strategy. As a hypnotherapist, I would have done the same. You normalised her by letting her know that it was a fortunate situation, then you guided her through mind/body dialogue to release the constriction. In so doing, you also gave her hope and with the forgiveness, came relief, healing and faith.

    If someone would have joined in with her in her fears, she may well have died.

    To be or not to be well can be a matter of believing a fear. Panic can be very powerful but is completely possibe to desensityze and transform, just as you facillitated.

    You have my acknowledgement,

    Bella
    • verbal suggestion first aid...

      Mon, June 26, 2006 - 10:33 AM
      i like that, i'll have to use it.
      over the years, i have worked with hundreds of people in various types of psychedelic crisis, some life threatening all serious to the person involved. i've learned how to use language, intention, energy, and touch to trigger desired responses and reactions. In addition, my recent training as a cht and nlp practitioner helped me refine my language use, in addition to learning how to establish rapport, etc.

      yes Bella, you are absolutely right, she could have succumbed to her own negative suggestions in addition to the dozen people around her who where panicking, so the first thing i did was clear everybody out, in front of her that she may see that i was in charge. the rest came easy :)

      i posted this story because i think it's important and valuable to plant seeds of empowerment. we need more examples of people resolving their problems and issues by listening to their bodies and accessing the sources rather than just using meds to deal with the symptoms.

      for a more complete story, including the other help she received from our nurse and an md, and her response, check out this blog
      tinyurl.com/nwj8v
  • Yeah Man Bravo...

    you did two of my favorite lines in life :
    «Forget your T.V. use your own Antenna»
    «Don't Panic»

    bravo...more like this for everyone !!!

    Thanx for letting us know
    R
    • Unsu...
       
      The mind body connection is so amazing. It's wonderful that you and the woman were able to make this journey together through her fears to the place where she could let go and connect with her deeper self. I'm curious if this woman would still be susceptible to bee sting reactions...or whether this experience enabled her to move completely through the block. Sometimes these kind of experiences are steps along the way / chips off the block....and sometimes we are able to completely embrace growth, and move right through to permanent change.

      I've been a beekeeper for over 20 years and I do live removal of honeybees from buildings as my job. I can appreciate some of this woman's fears....because over the years I've had to confront layers of my own fears in order to arrive at the place where I often work with the bees with very little protection. I still have a great respect for the bees, but I'm more comfortable with them because I'm more familiar and in tune with how they respond. My connection and sensitivity are heightened because I have less fear and am more present, more aware, and more skillful in adapting to them depending on the situation. It's an intimate dance. I've been stung hundreds of times, but my fears still occasionally come up....and from my own experience, I don't think the fear for most of us is about the physical pain, but rather the energy of being attacked and losing control. And of course if we're being attacked by an unfamiliar being/energy....then fear of the unknown adds even more fear to the experience.

      I think that some people who are afraid of bees would be helped by visiting a beekeeper and learning more about the beauty and harmony of bees. Fear can be dissolved gradually when it is replaced with familiarity and understanding. The same swarm of bees in a tree that terrifies one person can be seen by another as inviting and beautiful.

      Many years ago I was allergic to cats. My eyes would water and I'd start sneezing when I'd enter a cat household, and oftentimes the cat wouldn't even be home. Even though my symptoms were blatantly physical, people would sometimes suggest that it was just a "simple" psychological issue that I could cure if I changed my attitude towards cats. Over a period of a few years I did get in touch with the deeper feelings that fueled the allergy, and eventually I worked through them to the point where I lived with a cat of my own. It wasn't simple, but it did have to do with my perception of cats.....and deeper held feelings that triggered my allergies.

      Ultimately, all of our fears are little practice volleys in preparation for our greatest fear....the one that we postpone and pretend won't happen to us....our fear of death. Eventually we have to confront our own mortality.....and the practice of dealing with our fears along the way helps us to deal with and accept our own physical death.

      There's a great quote by Shunryu Suzuki Roshi:
      "Life is like stepping onto a boat which is about to sail out to sea and sink."
      How different would our lives be if we wholeheartedly embraced our inevitable death....it's ironic that in accepting our mortality, we are better able to get in touch with our immortality.